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The Hen Report: “The World Should Be Very Different” | Animal Rights, Ethical Awakenings, and Wildlife Crossings

Our Hen House 20 November 2025


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In this episode of The Hen Report, Jasmin and Mariann reflect on the peculiar psychology behind our collective blind spots to animal suffering, inspired by a thought-provoking Carl Sagan quote about the painful process of acknowledging when we’ve been “bamboozled.” From unexpected wildlife encounters to groundbreaking animal testing reforms, the duo navigates the latest developments in animal rights with their signature blend of wit and wisdom, celebrating progress while confronting the uncomfortable truths about our relationship with animals.

This episode explores:

  • How Carl Sagan’s insights about “the bamboozle” perfectly explain why otherwise compassionate people continue consuming animal products despite knowing the suffering involved
  • Exciting progress in the UK’s ambitious £75 million plan to completely phase out animal testing, signaling a major shift in scientific practices
  • The effectiveness of wildlife overpasses in Utah, which have reduced animal-vehicle collisions by up to 77% and demonstrate how animals intelligently adapt to human infrastructure
  • Jeff Goldblum’s recent decision to stop eating meat after working on “Wicked,” highlighting the film’s often-overlooked animal rights themes

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