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55: Grief in Other than Human Animals with Dr. Barbara King (S6)

The Deal With Animals 30 January 2023 2


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Episode 6 in Series 6: The Animal Protagonist

Have you ever wondered if other-than-human animals experience grief? We explore this question and other about emotion in non-human animals with Dr. Barbara King. 

Guest: Barbara J. King is Emerita Professor of Anthropology at William & Mary and a freelance science writer and public speaker. The author of seven books, including Animals’ Best Friends: Putting Compassion to Work for Animals in Captivity and the Wild, Barbara focuses on animal emotion and cognition, the ethics of our relationships with animals, and the evolutionary history of language, culture, and religion. Her book How Animals Grieve has been translated into 7 languages and her TED talk on animal love and grief has now received over 3 1/2 million views. Barbara’s work has appeared in Scientific American, Aeon, and Undark, and she regularly reviews books for NPR and the TLS. She tweets about animals, science, and books  https://twitter.com/bjkingape. To learn more, visit her website at www.barbarajking.com

Book Recommendations: The God Good Pig: The Extraordinary Life of Christopher Hogwood  and The Soul of an Octopus: A Surprising Exploration into the Wonder of Consciousness by Sy Montgomery

Also of mention: Wonderdog: The Science of Dogs and Their Unique Friendship with Humans by Jules Howard

Alpha Wolf Idea– David Mech Website

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell

Recording and post production software by Zencastr and hosting provided by Anchor.

This Podcast is part of the IROAR Animals Podcasting Network 

This podcast was produced on Historical Tribal Land of the Quinault Indian Nation and The Snoqualmie Tribe Ancestral Lands

Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/anthrozoo/message

Humans interact with animals every day of our lives. Even those without pets interact with animals in various ways: diet, wildlife, the clothes they wear. Even most medicines use animals in testing or in the medicine itself. This is a podcast about Anthrozoology: the study of interaction between humans and non-human animals.

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