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9: “We need to systematise benevolence” – David Pearce – Sentientist Conversations

Sentientism 5 December 2020


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We discuss the biggest questions: "what's real?", "who matters?" and "how to make a better world?" with scientists, celebrities, activists, writers and philosophers. The Sentientism worldview is "evidence, reason and compassion for all sentient beings." It's a simple, yet radical, philosophy that's grounded in reality (naturalistic epistemology) and has compassion for all sentient beings (mostly human and non-human animals). Naturalism & sentiocentrism combined.

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David Pearce is a philosopher & co-founder of the World Transhumanist Organisation, now Humanity+. His work centres on “The Hedonistic Imperative” – a moral obligation to work towards the abolition of suffering in all sentient life.”

You can find the video of our conversation here.

We discuss:

– “The Hedonistic Imperative” 

– Using biotech to abolish suffering & replace it with gradients of hedonic bliss

– Compassion, Buddhism, negative utilitarianism & the need to systematise benevolence

– The “3 supers” of Transhumanism: super intelligence, super longevity & super happiness + why non-humans should be included

– Growing up as a 3rd generation v*gan in a Quaker household

– Waiting for god to get in touch at 7-8 yrs old then ceasing to believe at 10-11 yrs

– The centrality of compassion to the values of David’s family

– Is morality like supporting a football team?

– We can build our ethics on deep intuitions, then extrapolate

– First person suffering is dis-valuable. Hold your hand in iced water!

– The centrality of our perspective as a highly adaptive illusion. The suffering of others is just as salient to them – each of us is not special

– “My morality is a feature of reality”

– A future connected mega-mind might look back on us as ignorant as well as unethical

– A choice to be immoral is also irrational

– Basing our morality on a naturalistic epistemology & spanning “is-ought”

– How nearly everyone disagrees with Sentientism

– Focusing on the good in religion & working on common ground

– The Bible is light on the bio-tech details of how the lion will lie down with the lamb 🙂

– If god has given us CRISPR, why not use it to show mercy?

– If humans have compassion, surely god’s compassion should be even deeper?

– Not being righteous even when you’re right

– Having compassion for people you disagree with & naturalistic humility about your own beliefs

– Religious texts don’t prohibit the positive use of tech

– We’re all amateurs re: understanding consciousness

– Consciousness/sentience as “just” info proc or something more

– Is the USA conscious? (Eric Schwitzgebel)

– Micro-experiential zombies

– Physicalism plus the intrinsic nature of the physical, is experience the “fire in the equations”?

– Falling asleep doesn’t destroy consciousness, it breaks binding

– Eric’s “crazyism” – stay open minded

– Powerpointism as an alternative to panpsychism 🙂

– The temptation to fill gaps / address uncertainty with “woo” and mysticism/magic/god

– Even if consciousness is fundamental, it’s not “like anything” to be a rock

– Distinction between panpsychism (consciousness attached to fundamental entities) & non-materialist physicalism (experience discloses the intrinsic nature of the physical)

– Using genetics to give our offspring better lives – for health and to adjust their hedonic set-points

– Ending animal farming “death factories” – laws will outlaw

– Making it easy to do the right thing

– Mitigating wild animal suffering (fertility regulation – immuno-contraception/gene drives). We are already intervening negatively on a massive scale

– SCN-9A gene, the volume knob of pain

– Converting carnivores to herbivores, providing cultured-meat alternatives, without being constrained by species essentialism

– “Nature is pretty” vs. “Compassion for the suffering”

– Moving from “kill them all” to compassionate interventions

– Using our tech capability to tap into the latent compassion of humans.

See the YouTube video for full show notes.

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