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53: “I would consider myself a Sentientist now” – Tennis pro Marcus Daniell – Sentientist Conversation

Sentientism 11 May 2021


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We discuss the biggest questions: "what's real?", "who matters?" and "how to make a better world?" with scientists, celebrities, activists, writers and philosophers. The Sentientism worldview is "evidence, reason and compassion for all sentient beings." It's a simple, yet radical, philosophy that's grounded in reality (naturalistic epistemology) and has compassion for all sentient beings (mostly human and non-human animals). Naturalism & sentiocentrism combined.

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Marcus (https://twitter.com/MarcusDaniell) is a professional tennis player from New Zealand. He is a philanthropist and an advocate for effective altruism through his work as the founder of High Impact Athletes (https://highimpactathletes.org/) and as a member of Giving What We Can. 

In Sentientist Conversations we talk about the two most important questions: “what’s real?” & “what matters?” Sentientism is “evidence, reason & compassion for all sentient beings.” The video of our conversation is here on YouTube.

We discuss:

0:00 Welcome

1:45 Marcus intro – pro tennis and High Impact Athletes charity

3:02 What’s real?

– Growing up on a farm in New Zealand

– A “spiritual” father and a “hippie” mother

– Pragmatism, a love for nature and animals, but a comfort with death. Hunting as a child

– Attending Christian schools

– Enjoying Religious Education but never buying in. Being agnostic/atheist from a young age

– Moving alone to Slovakia for tennis

– Discovering “spirituality” and eastern philosophies

– Studying philosophy at university

– Discovering animal ethics but thinking “I’m an athlete, I need meat”

– A turning point when a friend ordered whale in a sushi restaurant in Tokyo

– Going veg*an a week later

– Finding awe and wonder in a naturalistic/scientific worldview

– “Put me next to the ocean or in a forest or a jungle and it’s like experiencing magic for me”

– Naturalistic karma? Putting positive energy into the world and getting positive things back

14:06 What matters? Humans and non-humans

– Meeting a vegan tennis pro

– “I now feel like I’m living in my space in the world – in the right way”

– A sense of solidity… “That’s really helped me”

– Our lack of understanding of non-human sentients

– Intelligence vs. sentience as a moral qualifier

– “I would consider myself a sentientist now”

– I try to give respect to all sentient beings. If they can suffer, try not to cause them suffering

– Artificial sentients? Does suffering matter regardless of species or substrate?

– Sentience as an evolved class of information processing that could also be programmed in

– Luna the puppy makes an audio appearance

– Existential, catastrophic and suffering risks (S-risks)

– Peter Singer’s Animal Liberation. Trying not to cause suffering

– It’s so easy not to think. “I wonder how we can create more of these culturally shocking moments to make more people understand”

– The morals were somewhere there, just hidden under layers of culture and tradition

28:05 The Future

– Talking to others about animal products and hearing “We agree on all the reasons but I’m not going to make the change”

– “I would love for the world to be plant-based”

– Is regenerative animal farming an option?

– Can slaughter ever be humane?

– The broad common ground re: rejecting factory farming

– And more… (see YouTube or Sentientism.info).

Sentientism is “Evidence, reason & compassion for all sentient beings.” More at https://sentientism.info/. Join our “wall” https://sentientism.info/wall/ w/this form: https://sentientism.info/im-a-sentientist.

Marcus is on our “celebs” page: https://sentientism.info/sentientist-pledge/marcus-daniell.

Everyone interested, Sentientist or not, is welcome in our groups. Main one: https://www.facebook.com/groups/sentientism. Thanks Graham for the post-prod https://twitter.com/cgbessellieu.

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