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104: “Veganism is the secular manifestation of Ahimsa” – author Jordi Casamitjana – Sentientism

Sentientism 30 March 2022


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We discuss the biggest questions: "what's real?", "who matters?" and "how to make a better world?" with scientists, celebrities, activists, writers and philosophers. The Sentientism worldview is "evidence, reason and compassion for all sentient beings." It's a simple, yet radical, philosophy that's grounded in reality (naturalistic epistemology) and has compassion for all sentient beings (mostly human and non-human animals). Naturalism & sentiocentrism combined.

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Jordi is an ethical vegan, a zoologist and a veganism content writer and consultant. He has been involved in different aspects of animal protection for many years. He became well-known for securing ethical veganism as a protected characteristic under the UK Equality Act 2010 in a landmark Employment Tribunal case. He has worked doing campaigning, lobbying, scientific research, undercover investigations and consultancy. He has authored several books, including “Ethical Vegan: A Personal and Political Journey to Change the World”.

In Sentientist Conversations we talk about the two most important questions: “what’s real?” & “what matters?”

Sentientism is “evidence, reason & compassion for all sentient beings.” The video of our conversation is here on YouTube.

We discuss:

00:00 Welcome 

01:14 Jordi’s Intro

– Adding new identities: Zoology, ethical vegan, activist, writer.

– Legal case re: ethical veganism becoming a protected philosophical belief in the UK

– Writing “The Ethical Vegan”

03:26 What’s Real?

– Growing up in Catalonia as a Roman Catholic (like 99.9% of people there)

– Becoming atheist as a child despite “I never met one… I assumed that everybody else believed in the Catholic god”

– Other cultures seemed to be “pre-Catholic”

– Living under the oppression of Franco’s fascist dictatorship “Catalan culture survived underground.” “As a child… the message you get is ‘this reality is not the real one'” “I have to maintain a reality against the reality around me” That led to questioning Catholicism

– Being bullied “The world was a completely hostile place to me… the country… the streets”

– Discovering the welcome of the animal world & nature “I could see there was something better”

– Catalan Catholicism was softer. More open to doubt than the fascist-friendly, Spanish version

– Internal struggle at 12 yrs “What happens if I don’t believe”

– “Protestants tend to become agnostics. Catholics tend to become atheists.”

– “I prayed to god to make me an atheist… so I can discover you by myself”

– Being anti-religious at first, but softening with age

– Secular Buddhism

– Formal institutional religions vs. more personal/flexible religions & spirituality

– “I built my philosophy from instinct”

– Naturalistic & mystical/spiritual connections with nature

– “That bark seems more important than what you were just saying” 🙂

– The same feeling of awe can be interpreted in spiritual or naturalistic ways

– Jordi’s 13 hour lecture on “From Nothing to Everything – a Natural History of the Universe”

– “Reality is a subjective thing but also shared”… “Find the points in common”

…and much more. Full show notes at Sentientism.info and on YouTube.

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