“Let Birds Be Birds”: On VINE Sanctuary, with pattrice jones

A touching and funny podcast that explores how extraordinary people have been changed by an extraordinary animal. In this weekly show, Katya talks to fascinating guests about what their lives were like before and after they experienced a soul-level relationship with an animal.

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Part 4 of my 4-part series on animal agency! An interview with pattrice jones of VINE Sanctuary. We talk about building a just multispecies community, the trouble with effective altruism, and the sexism of the dairy industry.

For more on VINE Sanctuary: https://vinesanctuary.org/

For my prior interview with Lori Gruen and Alice Crary: https://shows.acast.com/storytelling-animals/episodes/animal-crisis-a-new-critical-theory-alice-crary-lori-gruen

For their effective altruism book, to which pattrice contributes: https://global.oup.com/academic/product/the-good-it-promises-the-harm-it-does-9780197655702?cc=us&lang=en&

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