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Civilization and Its Discontents: On Station Eleven, Planet of the Apes, and Kim Stanley Robinson

Dayton Martindale 15 February 2022


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A touching and funny podcast that explores how extraordinary people have been changed by an extraordinary animal. In this weekly show, Katya talks to fascinating guests about what their lives were like before and after they experienced a soul-level relationship with an animal.

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How do stories set in a post-apocalyptic future look back at our present world: are characters nostalgic for the affluence and convenience? Or do they look back in disgust, understanding that many of these luxuries were built on exploitation and environmental destruction? Or a little of both? I look at Emily St. John Mandel’s Station Eleven (the 2014 novel and the 2021/2022 TV show), Dawn of the Planet of the Apes (the 2014 movie) and Kim Stanley Robinson’s The Wild Shore (a 1984 novel) as three differing approaches to this question, and argue that while we can appreciate civilization’s comforts, we shouldn’t lose track of its costs.

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