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35: “We can’t understand humans without recognising that we are animals” – Diana Fleischman – Sentientist Conversations

Sentientism 6 March 2021


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We discuss the biggest questions: "what's real?", "who matters?" and "how to make a better world?" with scientists, celebrities, activists, writers and philosophers. The Sentientism worldview is "evidence, reason and compassion for all sentient beings." It's a simple, yet radical, philosophy that's grounded in reality (naturalistic epistemology) and has compassion for all sentient beings (mostly human and non-human animals). Naturalism & sentiocentrism combined.

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Dr Diana Fleischman is an evolutionary psychologist & an author. Until recently she was a senior lecturer at the University of Portsmouth. Her field of research includes the study of disgust, human sexuality, hormones & behaviour. She is involved in the effective altruism & animal welfare movements & identifies as a feminist and a Sentientist. Diana’s 2018 Darwin Day Lecture, hosted by Humanists UK, was part of the inspiration for our work developing & raising awareness of Sentientism. You can find Diana at https://twitter.com/sentientist
(yes!) & https://dianaverse.com/.

Why not join her on our “I’m a Sentientist” wall? https://sentientism.info/sentientist-pledge/diana-fleischman.

In these Sentientist Conversations we talk about the two most important questions: “what’s real?” & “what matters?”  Sentientism is “evidence, reason & compassion for all sentient beings.”

The video of our conversation is available here on YouTube. Don’t forget to subscribe and click the bell for notifications.

We discuss:

– Evolutionary psychology

– Effective Altruism

– Diana’s Darwin Day talk to Humanists UK

– Whether Humanists are more likely to be ethical vegans

– Whether “carnism” is socialised or a state of nature

– Diana’s father’s German Jewish & Polish family history during WWII & since

– “They fell in love because he fed her a lot of food”

– Diana’s Catholic mother. Being baptised in Portugal

– Going to synagogue with Diana’s grandfather & Catholic Sunday School

– After first communion “I don’t like it & I don’t believe it”

– Going atheist at 9/10 yrs after brother did at 7

– Being fascinated by evolution – “I carried The Evolution Book around like a teddy bear”

– Being teased as “Monkey Girl” for believing in evolution. The worst bullies seemed to be the most religious kids

– Being told in the early 1990’s by a teacher “evolution is controversial – it’s not a settled idea”

– We skipped the evolution chapter in the Biology textbook

– Becoming stridently anti-religious

– “I thought we couldn’t really understand human beings without understanding that humans are animals”

– I met so many wonderful religious people in the vegan movement & became much less aggressively anti-religion

– Religious arguments for why we should be compassionate are wrong but that compassion can still have good outcomes

– Diana’s Hen Do turns into a witches coven

– Weeping after being blessed by a minister & being moved by ritual

– “I am exactly the kind of person who could fall into religious fervour”

– Sam Harris: “Religions shouldn’t have a monopoly on reverence”

– “Nature is a horrible place”

– & much more… (full show notes on YouTube & sentientism.info)

Sentientism is “Evidence, reason & compassion for all sentient beings.” More at https://sentientism.info/. Join Diana on our “wall” https://sentientism.info/wall/ using this form: https://sentientism.info/im-a-sentientist.

Everyone interested, Sentientist or not, is welcome to join our groups. Our main one is here on FaceBook https://www.facebook.com/groups/sentientism.

Thanks to Graham for his post-prod. Follow him: https://twitter.com/cgbessellieu

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