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48: “Maybe moral systems are harmful! Like religion they are used to divide us.” – Walter Veit – philosopher, scientist and sentientist – Sentientist Conversation

Sentientism 21 April 2021


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We discuss the biggest questions: "what's real?", "who matters?" and "how to make a better world?" with scientists, celebrities, activists, writers and philosophers. The Sentientism worldview is "evidence, reason and compassion for all sentient beings." It's a simple, yet radical, philosophy that's grounded in reality (naturalistic epistemology) and has compassion for all sentient beings (mostly human and non-human animals). Naturalism & sentiocentrism combined.

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Walter (https://twitter.com/wrwveit & https://walterveit.com/) is an interdisciplinary scientist, philosopher & writer focusing on biology, minds & ethics. He publishes the ‘Science & Philosophy‘ series on Psychology Today & Medium.

In these Sentientist Conversations we talk about the two most important questions: “what’s real?” & “what matters?” Sentientism is “evidence, reason & compassion for all sentient beings.”

Our conversation is also here on YouTube: https://youtu.be/xxSGItuaSn4.

We discuss:

– Defending Descartes, as a child!

– Studying philosophy, politics, economics & science

– Writing a PhD on the philosophy of consciousness. How sentience came to arise in a purely physical universe

– Growing up in an agnostic family, attending church but “grumbling”

– Finding it strange learning about god at school. Asking annoying questions 🙂

– A brief early teenage phase of believing in god, then reverting to atheism

– Church seemed like a “weird cult-like thing.” “It just didn’t make sense.”

– There are thousands of religions. They can’t all be right. Just disbelieving in one more than religious people do

– Being a “hard-core naturalist” but still feeling the pull of superstition

– Finding naturalism reassuring. Can abandon the “f*cking scary stuff” (monsters, ghosts, hell)

– We can just enjoy our lives & explore the universe

– The pull of being part of something larger. The universe, a tribe, a sports team fan group…

– The hesitation in Germany about collectivism

– “It’s a peculiar world we live in – it’s exciting”

– Does morality crumble without the normative force of a god. “A dude in the sky making up laws and we just have to follow them”

– People sceptical of morality aren’t sceptical about laws. You can break them but there might be consequences

– Too much of morality seems arbitrary. But Bentham almost proposed utilitarianism as a sort of science, not morality

– Utilitarians in the UK were engaged in politics & in improving the world

– Instead of considering morality – just consider the facts re: “What do animals want from their own point of view”

– Facts: animals exist. They can be harmed. They don’t like suffering

– Humans evolved as a social species. That makes us care

– “Morality” might create more harms than benefits!

– There is no dividing line between humans and other animals because we all have interests

– Both morality and religion have been used to divide humans & animals

– Even oppressive groups have divided people through an appeal to morality

– The deep connection between morality and spirituality/religion. Often naturalists & atheists don’t see the danger

– Naturalists are attacked for being amoral but are no less moral

– And much more… Full show notes are on Sentientism.info. I ran out of space!

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