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120: “The Politics of Love” – Writer Philip McKibbin – Sentientism

Sentientism 15 July 2022


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We discuss the biggest questions: "what's real?", "who matters?" and "how to make a better world?" with scientists, celebrities, activists, writers and philosophers. The Sentientism worldview is "evidence, reason and compassion for all sentient beings." It's a simple, yet radical, philosophy that's grounded in reality (naturalistic epistemology) and has compassion for all sentient beings (mostly human and non-human animals). Naturalism & sentiocentrism combined.

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Philip is a writer from Aotearoa New Zealand, of Pākehā (NZ European) & Māori (Ngāi Tahu) descent. He is a PhD candidate at the Uni of Sydney, affiliated with the Sydney Environment Institute. He holds a Master of Arts in Philosophy from The Uni of Auckland & diplomas in te reo Māori (the Māori language) from Te Wānanga o Aotearoa. Philip has written for publications such as the Guardian, Newsroom, & Takahē. His book, Love Notes: for a Politics of Love, is published by Lantern Books. In 2018, he co-organised ‘The Politics of Love: A Conference’ at All Souls College, Oxford. Philip was also kaiwhakatipu (editor) of He Ika Haehae Kupenga.

In Sentientist Conversations we talk about the two most important questions: “what’s real?” & “what matters?”

Sentientism is “evidence, reason & compassion for all sentient beings.” The video of our conversation is here on YouTube.

We discuss:

00:00 Welcome

01:54 Philip’s Intro

– Writing on animals, Maori issues & “The Politics of Love”

03:10 What’s Real?

– Neither parent very religious so grew up agnostic?

– Anglican Christian high school

– Sermons talked more about love than god

– Confirmed at 14 yrs… “ridiculous… what do 14 yr olds know?”

– “A lot of the metaphysical background was smuggled in”

– Anglicanism to comparative religion to philosophy

– Turning from metaphysical to normative/ethics/politics

–  “The final nature of reality is unknowable to us & we just have to proceed on our senses”

– Albert Camus

– The risk of being distracted by esoteric philosophical questions… instead “We need to be engaged in work that tried to bring about a better world in the light of obvious suffering”

– “I do believe there is something transcendent that is true… spiritual… love”

– “Communing with the spiritual… but through a critical filter”

– “Prophets of love… Martin Luther King Jr & Te Whiti O Rongomai”

– God, purpose, meaning, spirit, love… “Our attempts to name it… project our own interpretations on to it… prevent us from fully understanding…”

– Ethical risks from religious or spiritual epistemologies (unchallengeable, unknowable, incommunicable, obedience, higher purposes, constrained/conditional compassion)

– Old, new testaments, “what would the next step be?… Something like love?… a more mature ethical outlook.”

– Is something missing from a purely naturalistic ethics? “Not necessarily… we should & can find reasons for acting in a loving way independently from this spirituality I have described.”

26:30 What Matters?

– “I understand ethics in relation to love & relationship”

– Constructing & affirming the morality we want to see in the world

– “We are living in an absurd world… we need to determine & assert our own values… try to act lovingly”

…and much more. Full show notes at Sentientism.info.

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